I watched Civil War tonight

[ratcreature]

I enjoyed this a lot. The conflict between them actually made more sense than in the comic storyline, and I liked that the Sokovian Accords in the movie are not about superhuman registration at all, but about UN oversight of the Avengers.

I also liked that Zemo wasn't actually a supervillain in the usual comic way. He wants revenge for his killed family against the Avengers, and accepts "collateral damage" but he is not out to kill a lot of people or destroy everything, but just wants to get rid of the Avengers and the supersoldiers, and the motivation and scheme made about as much sense as villains in superhero movies can get. That final conversation with T'Challa where the latter gives up on his revenge worked well for me.

Anyway, the movie also left them all in a much better place than I feared. None of the main characters got killed (yay!), and I liked the kernel for renewed cooperation between Tony and Steve. They are at odds politically, but still both willing to help the other side.

As a Steve/Bucky shipper I'm not that thrilled that Bucky chose to be put in cryo again in the first after credits scene, though his fear of being used again is understandable, but he and Steve both being together in Wakanda (in a way) to recover is a setup with great possibilities.

Also I really want the fic (all of them) where Steve and Bucky, probably with T'Challa's help, work together to break out the rest of the team from that submarine prison.

Comments

[ratcreature]

Hm, I had assumed T'Challa (and his superior Wakandan tech) was helping Steve and Bucky with the breakout before they are all hiding out in Wakanda together, and that Tony's role was more to (not so) subtly obstruct Ross' efforts to contain them from the other side.

[calime]

That may also be true. I was just going by Tony's tendency to feel he has to fix all his mistakes himself and despite everything I'm wondering whether he'd be working together with Steve and Bucky so soon. OTOH, with T'Challa, yes. Just it'd ring true for Tony that he'd also already have a lot of contingency-tech in place for things like that. I mean, Tony seems to be a person who'd have that - measures to activate in case of this or that -, which is also IMHO one of the reasons he would find the Accords a good measure (restrain some impulses, yet something he could work to subvert as necessary with his resources) while Steve would focus on 'what if the oversight sucks at it's job like it often does'.

[ratcreature]

Yeah, clearly Tony isn't fully prepared to actually let others decide without having backdoors built, even after all that went wrong when he tried to "privatize world security" and such. He's not one for following rules either, more of a chaotic good person.

But Steve is more straightforward, and since he knows he wouldn't necessarily obey he won't pretend. And I can understand why Steve wouldn't want to sign up for anything again after the last time he trusted it all turned out to be Hydra. And that organization was founded and led for a long time by Peggy whom he knew and trusted personally. Though in principle as far as politics go I'm more on "Team Ironman" with this, especially when it isn't about registering everybody with powers, just over sight for internationally operating superheroes. (Or perhaps I should call it team War Machine, because Rhodey seems more about acting in line with his convictions rather than maneuvering.)