quick episode reactions to CSI and Supernatural

[ratcreature]

I've been disgruntled with CSI this season for killing Warrick, whom I liked, even though he wasn't my favorite. However, if they really go for a Lady Heather/Gil relationship as the last scene this week with Gil asking her to stay with him in her guest room suggests, instead of backing away from it once again next week, I might just forgive them.

I really like Heather/Gil, and have long since bemoaned the (to me incomprehensible) lack of fanfic for it, so if it became canon it would be kind of awesome. Unless they'd mess it up completely of course, but maybe it will give the fanfic a boost at least.


While the suicidal, depressed teddy bear was admittedly awesome, like much of my f-list I'm sick of the trope to have a nerd mindcontrol-rape women in comedy episodes. These rapists are not sympathetic characters, and in Watsonian logic, the reason that they never managed to get any girl without a mind control rape scheme before is clearly not because they are nerds or not pretty enough, but because they are creeps who are okay raping a mind controlled, brainwashed slave over and over again. So who would want to be with them? Their fundamental personality flaw keeping them from relationships is not their nerdy geekdom. I'm just saying.

Also, it was a cheap cop out to have the victim forget (and what will she think happened to these weeks of her life anyway?!?), but the people who wished something remember.

Comments

[brownbetty]

These rapists are not sympathetic characters, and in Watsonian logic, the reason that they never managed to get any girl without a mind control rape scheme before is clearly not because they are nerds or not pretty enough, but because they are creeps who are okay raping a mind controlled, brainwashed slave over and over again. So who would want to be with them? Their fundamental personality flaw keeping them from relationships is not their nerdy geekdom. I'm just saying.

I kind of want to go around stapling this to peoples' foreheads.

[ratcreature]

That's what really gets to me, this implied story "logic" that they somehow become rapists because all the girls are so mean to them and won't have sex with them for being too nerdy. Seriously, if they have a personality that goes from not getting any sex b/c of social awkwardness and not being gorgeous to mindcontrol rape schemes, the latter was not their major problem.

I think the only way to keep them sympathetic is if it was a fantasy becoming reality unintentionally, and they were horrified as soon as it happened for real, and then did not actually rape the girl but unsuccessfully try to fix it or something. You could play that for humor. I mean, I get them feeling sorry for themselves for not having as much sex as they'd like to, and I get having mindcontrol as a fantasy; it's the step beyond that that makes them really creepy.

[cereta.livejournal.com]

THANK YOU!

God, I just...

[mamadeb.livejournal.com]

I'd love a Gil/Lady Heather. They have far more chemistry than he had with Sarah (which was zero), and how much would it rock to see a man get involved with a strong woman his own age?

And at least Joss Wedon understood that the mindcontrollers were rapists.

[cereta.livejournal.com]

It is total Nice Guy(tm) logic. I mean, the whole episode could be taken as a blueprint for that syndrome.

[ratcreature]

Gil/Heather would be so awesome. I don't understand why there is so little fic for them. I really hope they go there next week, and that Gil will be finally over Sarah.

[ratcreature]

I just don't understand why these episodes never take the fairly obvious routes that wouldn't make supposedly sympathetic characters horribly creepy and icky.

He could have thought it was a joke, unintentionally made his mindcontrol fantasy real, and then be horrified and tried to escape or undo it, but not knowing how, and you'd have this pretty girl after the nerd and he tries to resist valiantly or something. That could have been funny. I mean, in their hands it would likely still have had icky issues, but not nearly as much. I mean, I get it as a *fantasy*, you know? But it should be horrifying the guy as soon as it became real, unless they want to make him some sort of psychopath.

[ratcreature]

It's just icky. It makes me afraid of what goes on inside their heads.

[cereta.livejournal.com]

It would have taken ONE LINE from Sam or Dean to make me happy. They didn't even have to use the R word. All they would have had to do was answer, "Why can't we get what we want?" with, "Yeah, well, what about what she wanted?"

[ratcreature]

Yeah, that would have been a good start. I think I would still have been slightly disgruntled, because the whole setup still would have had the creep as also a victim somehow pushed into raping others, even with a comment giving some perspective. But it would have been much better, that's true.

[jimandblair.livejournal.com]

also Dean punched a kid (it's usually the demon controlled woman/female monster of the week). That threw me right out of the story.

I'm not entirely sure of the motivation of the regular Dean-punching vulnerable/or vulnerable-appearing-individual of the week 1) show that all people are equally likely to be hurt, 2) shock value....

[brianhcarr.livejournal.com]

". . . I'm sick of the trope to have a nerd mindcontrol-rape women in comedy episodes."

Hello -

Do you remember which episode this was?

Thanks,
Brian

[ratcreature]

Yeah, I'm talking about the one I say it is in the cut-tag text? SPN 4x08. The one with the wishing well, "Wishful Thinking".