SCC squee

[ratcreature]

The series continues to be awesome. I didn't suspect Riley to be also a future agent at all, but it fits. Poor John apparently doesn't get to know anyone closer who isn't a time traveler.

I like how there are plots within plots originating from different timelines. With time travel you would end up with a mess like this. I just hope they'll also manage to sort it out as well later, and it won't go the way of too many overly ambitious mytharcs. But so far I'm still optimistic about that.

Like everyone else I'm now suspicious of Jesse, though I don't think she's a bad guy as such. But if the plan is to get John less close to Cameron through Riley, I wonder whether that won't backfire. Because sooner or later John will find out about the setup and then the humans look bad for having manipulated him, while the Terminator was seemingly upfront and honest with him.

I really liked the scenes with John and Derek. I like their odd, yet kind of intense, dynamic in which the time travel twists the leader/parental figure dynamics around.

Also, I wonder what Ellison really thinks about Weaver and his work for her, because even if he doesn't know that she's a Terminator, he has to have noticed that she's somewhat creepy, and this ep she outright said she couldn't teach the AI even minimal ethics.

Comments

[kassrachel.livejournal.com]

I think your lj-cut is messed-up; you might want to edit to fix that... :-)

[ratcreature]

Yes, sorry! I saw. I always check my flist after posting ep spoiler, but LJ loads slow for me tonight, so it took a moment.

[auburnnothenna.livejournal.com]

Another thing about the Riley assignment that's interesting is what it says about the politics of the human resistance up the timeline. There are obviously factions. (f)John Connor is not in absolute control. Jesse and Riley's mission is one that's off the books and in the black.

I may hve misinterpreted, but it seemed to me that from what Jesse said to Derek that Cameron is still with (f)John in her timeline and has been through everything.

If the show can keep this up. Well. So far so good. Right now it and Criminal Minds are the best things on broadcast.

[ratcreature]

Yeah, I like that this makes futureJohn less of an ominpotent messiah figure but more a leader who has a lot of authority but is still questioned.

And yeah, I thought the Cameron in the future with John is the one who grew up with him too, though timetravel is always confusing with this stuff.

[madripoor-rose.livejournal.com]

Riley was a plottwist I didn't expect. And I'm getting fascinated with Weaver's storyline. Why would she want to teach John Henry ethics and the 10 Commandments if she's trying to bring Skynet into existance?

[ratcreature]

I'm wondering that too. It could be that she want the AI to understand and mimick what they want to beat and be better at it right away. From the future flashbacks it seems that one of the major goals of the AIs is to understand humans better, whether for infiltration or maybe just to find out what makes their creators tick. I mean, I can't imagine any sentient being who could meet the one who set their evolution (or mechanical evolution) in motion and not be curious. So maybe she just wants to get a headstart.

Another possibility is of course that the machines have factions just like the humans do, and Weaver belongs to some who don't want to annihilate humans make make room for machines in some sort of coexistence. I mean, I guess if the humans weren't completely panicked at the emergence of powerful AIs and tried (too late) to but a stop to them, they wouldn't have dropped nuclear weapons on everything.

[tassosss.livejournal.com]

Hmm. And maybe Weaver is from a future so far ahead that Skynet is really badly losing to the humans and this was a solution for a do-over that comes out a compromise? Dunno - just thinking out loud.

[ratcreature]

Yeah, there are lots of cool possibilities here.

[tassosss.livejournal.com]

About Jesse, I don't know what to think about her and that is what makes this show so brilliant. All these ambiguous characters running around with their very good reasons for screwing our hero over.

[ratcreature]

Yeah. I'm really enjoying how messy their situation is, rather than there being clear sides.