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RatCreature ([personal profile] ratcreature) wrote2012-12-12 08:37 pm
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being somewhat touchy, I guess

I've seen a bunch of links to an anon end of year feedback meme, and I checked it out, but once again, as so many memes, it is only for fic writers, not any other fanworks, even though no modifications in the feedback meme setup would be needed to make it more inclusive. Doing anything else but fic writing in this corner of fandom feels like being invisible sometimes.
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[personal profile] petra 2012-12-12 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I was vexed that it was on LJ, so I set up a thread for myself on my DW as well. You could quite readily do that, only with a slight and, as you say, simple change of focus.
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[personal profile] petra 2012-12-12 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a systemic problem, yes.
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[personal profile] thirdblindmouse 2012-12-13 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I know that feeling. It makes me grumpy too. WTH, I did not even come here for fic.
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[personal profile] thirdblindmouse 2012-12-13 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I guess they feel that linking but not hosting is good enough for non-text-based works. I don't know, AO3 is a mess and I don't really want to post to an archive, so I don't pay attention to them. But it bugs me when I'm in the middle of a conversation about fandom -- or so I thought -- when it comes out that everyone else thought they were having a conversation about fanfic writers and fanfic readers and couldn't conceive of "fandom" indicating anything else.
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[personal profile] thirdblindmouse 2012-12-13 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The more I think about, the more the lack of fanart hosting for AO3 seems weird, because the OTW is perfectly willing to host fanart on Fanlore, no?

fan art fun time

(Anonymous) 2012-12-15 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I had my fan art on DeviantArt for a couple of years but periodically fan art gets targeted by various stalkers (apparently harassing artists is something of a group activity in the DA culture) so I had to move my gallery twice and start my flist over.

Then DA itself began locking artists out of their own work. The intention was to address copyright infringement issues and protect DA from being prosecuted for facilitating the theft of intellectual property. In some instances this makes sense, but I ran into cases after case where artists were locked out of their own work because even though they created the image, it was a representation of a fictional character and fell into a legal gray area as far as ownership goes. To be on the 'safe side' DA frequently opts to treat such art as the property of the canonical copyright holders. If you can't get written permission from, say, DC Comics, then your drawing of Batman will be locked down and eventually deleted, your gallery placed on a list of artists to be periodically targeted.

I finally gave up and moved everything to Tumblr. There, I get art love and the members fight to keep my name attached to the image. So far I have no complaints whatsoever. I still post on LJ art coms but I no longer sweat the yawning chasm of indifference of both LJ and DW users.
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[personal profile] thirdblindmouse 2012-12-16 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
They claim it is not "archiving" there, but "fair use" hence contrary to fannish standards there is no policy of asking artists or even removing art if artists object to it being there (because for example they want the traffic to their site).

I can see that they wouldn't want to have a policy of requiring permission-or-takedowns for every single image they use for articles on the site, but given that they seem to be using the wiki as a sort of archive for images they have uploaded en masse (most of the fanart there doesn't seem to have articles to justify its presence, IIRC), that is impressively obnoxious.