kind of shocked...

I've finally managed to watch the Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker movie, and it's just-- I don't know Batman Beyond, but what they made happen to Tim in this, it was totally chilling, and cruel, and twisted. Wow. It sent shivers down my spine how the Joker tortured and brainwashed Tim, and then showed that home movie to Batman. And a ton of other scenes were also shocking, like how Tim killed the Joker, and the "returned" Joker shot his henchman with the same kind of jokerized gun. Um, I don't have terribly coherent comments right now. And really, they market this stuff as a children's cartoon?